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Please buff/fix eternal flames crafting sources

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Forever Unrelenting Flames
https://maplestory.fandom.com/wiki/Forever_Unrelenting_Flame
dropped from elite bosses and elite monsters and elite champions (dark gargogyle, cresendo slime, butterflies)
hlotus and onwards

The drops also does not seems to be 100%, in 1 wap you at max can gain one digit of forever unrelenting flames(buff the amount please)

Rebirth lv flames
The loot table does not match with wiki, a lot of the daily bosses that drops lv flames are not included and even if they drop, their drop rates are tooooo low to be worth the time to farm them.

Given the current state where you get 5 lv flames from daily boss (ark, ht, pb and vonleon) and assume they give 2.5 fragments on average, you can only craft 1 eternal flames per day per wap.
 
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Disagree here. I think flame sources have already been massively increased. Any player who clears ctene bosses should have enough bp for 50 eflames a week from bp shop. Eluna anniversary event has given vouchers/ mag/traancendant pots that anyone who bothered can get 10500-11000 legion. This also gives additional free flames from legion shop weekly.

Previously highly useable/sought after flames for level 200 was like 102/6 and 120/6, the standard has increased to 110/6, 126/6+ and it will only increase further as players always want better things. So it's not really a supply issue.

Also don't think forever unrelenting flames are lacking, they are like 2m each at most, supply is abundant tbh.

Flames are one of the hardest systems in eluna compared to gms and that's how it has been.
 
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According to you, you said you believe GMS has more supply of flames, please do explain what you mean by 'massively increased'

BP store, yes that is a good increment.

Sure, legion/event/seasonal gives karma flames which is quite obsolete because you are in no way sacrificing tradability just to use karma flames. Karma eternals in return become obsolete when your equipped are all settle flames. Furthermore, assuming you don't even buy legion coupons, you cant buy out eternals + black at all.

I did not talked about chase flames so idk why was that mentioned and relate to supply? Maybe you can expand your thoughts more on how wanting better things = supply is not an issue

Unrelenting flames are definitely not 2m AT most, they had been hovering at 3m+- average and with sub 2m of small stacks that sells out instantly. Please enlighten me on how is supply considered abundant when you get single digit from 1-2 waps (recently tested 2 wap for 8 purple unrelenting).

But the core of my argument comes from it doesn't not align with what supposed to drop? the daily bosses drop rate are too low and weeklies are not dropping unrelenting
(you can see that only 1 boss did not drop lv flames)
(droptable shows that seren drops but in eluna does not)
 
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Eluna has significantly less flames than GMS. Getting a good flame is one of the more difficult parts of gearing in Eluna when compared to GMS. This is the status quo, so an exaggerated effort to change it will not be good or fun for the existing players. The supply of flames are already greatly increased compared to before.

Karma flames are super useful and are great for using on arcane or eternals which for all jobs bar pirate, are only able to aim for 1 flame stat. Even tradeability is not that big a concern as most players in the last 10-11 months of eluna relied on icogging their own gear than buying service.

Point about standard of flames increasing is that flames will never be enough. If there are 100 eflames in the BP store weekly, then 126/6 flames become more common and players will chase for 132/6+ instead and still say that there are not enough flames. Fact of the matter is that 120/6 items are no longer a rarity and you can pretty much buy one at a whim for most stats. Flames are not in short supply or even arguably oversupplied in this period where the events give over 500 flames for free to all players.

Idk 1wap give how many unrelenting flames, but we are not reboot. Being self sufficient is not a necessity in a server where trading is allowed. Many players do not even use those flames to craft more eflames. If farming it was self sufficient then there would be no value to trade them, which would be bad.
 
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I understand what you are saying but I would argue that we can only see the lucky ones being sold, or the big capitalist that only do flames hitting those 12x/6 flames consistently severely biased our perception on flames when we do not even know how much they used.

In my personal experience only 1.2k eflames amassed over a month+ period with 3hours+- of smegaing daily and buying almost every price offered, not really that much lv flames can be bought in the market. is really letting all daily boss drops 1-2 lv flames and weekly bosses drop unrelenting affect that much? I would not know, but your point is well received and let us await elunabot's decision
 
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In light of the recent occurences in Eluna, my point on maintaining the status quo of flames being hard to achieve and therefore should be continued to be gatekept, no longer hold true.

To move forward from this event, a drastic overhaul and improvement of availability of flames is needed to adequately move forward from this saga and maintain the accessbility of flames on about 10-20% of the prices in the past month for all players in Eluna.

This would mean drastically improving level flame sources, incentivising daily bossing, improving eflame crafting and tradeability of eflames.

I will elaborate more on another suggestion thread.
 
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so i WASNT crazy when i am only able to craft 500 eflames in a month of actively buying lvl flames????????????
 
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