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[Zero] Time Piece and Ego Weapon incorrect procs

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Zero 5.40 BA comparison Eluna vs GMS

1. Missing Time Piece procs

Time piece has a cooldown of 2s, and procs whenever assist hits 4 times

There is a missing ~25% "Times Used" in Eluna BA vs GMS BA

Each time Time Piece procs, it is counted as 3 "Times Used" in BA. In my Eluna BA, this adds up to 429 (probably ended BA early missing 1 count)/3 = 143 procs
In GMS BA, it is 588/3 = 196 procs

Zero's tag cooldown is about 3.12s, Time Piece cooldown is at 2s, so you are pretty much guaranteed to proc Time Piece 2 times per tag
In a 5.40min BA, you will have 340/3.12 = ~108 tags, accounting for buffing/origin/imperfections it should be at about 100 tags, for a total of ~200 time pieces which is accurate to GMS BA.

So for some reason, Eluna is losing ~25% of the Time Piece procs

In this video, when performing a standard B3232 -> A444 (B3 = Spin Driver, B2 = Flash Cut, A4 = Wind Cutter, if you're trying to reproduce), we can see that Time Piece only proced 3 times (total hits 9), instead of 4 (total hits 12). It successfully proced on BA timings 1s, 3s (within B3232) and 5s, but missed on 7s (within A444).

The likely theory is due to not enough attacks needed to proc Time Piece, which is related to this post regarding Beta's B4, which explains why Alpha's A444 combo is missing 1 Time Piece proc.

If the above does not fix the proc issues, it is likely a cooldown related issue, tagging causing issues, or an improper hitcount registration of assist attacks.


Cancelled the above since I was likely wrong with the math, but leaving it there in case it turns out to be a contributing factor

EDIT: Found a likely culprit - M2 Time Piece passive is not coded

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M1 Time Piece summons 3 traces of time per proc, M2 adds +1 trace of time per proc (and also increases the limit as stated). However, only 3 is created in Eluna.

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Eluna example, 3 traces (missing 1)

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KMS example, 4 traces

This probably accounts for the 25% missing hitcount, but likely this bug is also contributing to missing some Time Piece procs.

2. Ego Weapon incorrect hitcount

Unfortunately, since both twin's Ego Weapon counts into the same BA, it is hard to tell how many procs happened in the GMS BA, however the following should be correct, based on Zero's discord:

Alpha's Ego Weapon counts as 1 proc, for a total of 9 blades x 6 hits = 54 hits
Beta's Ego Weapon counts as 3 procs, for a total of 3 swords (aka procs) x 2 shockwave x 9 hits = 54 hits

In Eluna, Alpha's Ego Weapon seems to match the hitcount properly, however there is some strange issues with Beta's Ego Weapon

Video 1, Video 2

Issues:
1. It seems like Beta's Ego Weapon is coded to do 2 procs ("Times Used") per sword hit (18 "Total Attacks" per sword), for a total of 4 procs. It should actually be 1 proc per sword hit (9 "Total Attacks" per sword), for a total of 3 procs. There is definitely something wrong here, since it seems like visually, the 3rd sword does not seem to be hitting anything.
EDIT: Got a GMS BA of Beta's Ego, its supposed to hit for 6 "Total Attacks", meaning that each sword should hit for 2 "Times Used" (probably correctly coded in Eluna?), for a total of 6 from one proc of Beta's Ego Weapon (since each proc summons 3 swords). Which means that point 2 below is likely the issue.
2. There is a chance of Beta's Ego Weapon missing? There is a varying amount of "Times Used" whenever Ego Weapon activates, in Video 1 it is mostly either 2 Times Used or 4 Times Used, although I may have seen 3 Times Used before (not recorded). EDIT: As per the above point, it should be 6 Times Used when Beta's Ego Weapon procs.

I'm not sure if this accounts for the difference in Ego Weapon counts (over 3 BA's I done, Eluna is always ~50% of GMS' "Times Used", i.e. 90+ in Eluna vs GMS 181), however there does not seem to be any issues in Alpha's Ego Weapon hitcounts at least.
 

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gao

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haha just small issue, can skip. v256 more important or maybe can disable zero swap into another str class like dw I guess
 
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Edited Time Piece portion, M2 passive does not seem to be coded
 
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